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| Re: libre for mozilla [message #72 is a reply to message #71] |
Wed, 24 June 2020 17:16   |
connie
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IceCat is in FXP: https://freenix.net/fxp/freeslack64-14.2/fxp/
I would love to see a working alternative to IceCat, for a number of reasons. I do believe that the main point of failure in Firefox, as far as FSF is concerned, is the addons page, which directs users to a repository rife with nonfree addons, and no way to filter by license. If this issue is fixed in a SlackBuild, I could push it into FXP same day. Any alternative would be great, because sooner or later we need to bring FSF to the table and revisit/resolve many many issues like the one above, because arguments tend to be vague, and I've seen reports that these rules are not enforced consistently among FSF-approved distros.
PS: As it stands, Freenix project does not endorse or provide Firefox for any purpose, and this post is not an exception. However, I am personally so fed up with IceCat, I am using vanilla Firefox at the moment. We need a real solution, which is free of addons, robust, and tracks Mozilla's security releases with daily urgency.
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| Re: libre for mozilla [message #75 is a reply to message #74] |
Mon, 13 July 2020 20:16 |
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KRT1
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Registered: March 2017
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Just chiming in here with my own personal software choices in this department.
I am using Claws-Mail for email and RSS. Libre and awesome, not much to complain about, works on all platforms.
On my Freenix machine, I am using the "latest" Icecat for most basic browsing, and I still have a copy of Abrowser installed that I grabbed from ConnochaetOS's slack-n-free64 repo when it was still accessible. Abrowser tends to work better on sites that reject Icecat. Both of those are quite long in the tooth though. I have a "user agent switcher" add-on that I can use to fool sites into thinking that it is the latest Firefox. I have almost never had this go wrong, the site usually functions just fine once I get past their browser check script.
I am getting fed up with where the Internet is going, in general, with all the JavaScript and tracking and whatnot. I have actually been browsing more and more using Links/Lynx/w3m. Text-based browsing is actually pretty functional, but I can see why it would not appeal to many as a default browser option.
On my freed Slackware machines (32-bit and ARM machines where I have uninstalled all offending packages and am running a Linux-Libre kernel where possible), I have been using Firefox (with only Libre add-ons installed of course). And yes, I heavily modify my about:config. I actually disable pretty much any option that has an http:// or https:// in the value field somewhere, with the exception of the add-on updater URLs. That way my browser almost never "calls home" for any reason, and I don't have do deal with those annoying featured articles or whatever those are.
It is worth your time going through the about:config. That is one of the main reasons I still use Mozilla products at all. Most other browsers (whether libre or not) rarely have the fine-grained level of control that is available in the about:config section of Firefox et al.
Would a standard Firefox build with a modified about:config set at build-time satisfy the FSDG? That seems like a super-easy fix if so. Are they no longer hung-up on the logo trademark issue? I know that Debian got over that detail eventually.
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| Re: libre for mozilla [message #78 is a reply to message #75] |
Sat, 01 August 2020 05:51 |
connie
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Quote:Would a standard Firefox build with a modified about:config set at build-time satisfy the FSDG? That seems like a super-easy fix if so. Are they no longer hung-up on the logo trademark issue? I know that Debian got over that detail eventually.
FSDG is too vague to address your question. You may as well just ask, will it satisfy FSF?
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